In this interview conducted by educator Arnold Dodge, education historian Diane Ravitch discusses what's wrong with the agenda of the "corporate reform movement." She notes that a current obsession with testing and a persistent blaming of teachers is subverting learning for students. The emphasis on competition, entrepreneurship, and politicization of education issues will damage public schools to a degree that teachers will not want to enter the profession. Because they are building blocks of democracy, schools belong in the public sector. Rather than putting our faith in highly flawed assessment instruments as measures of excellence, we must bring the conversation back to equity of resources and high quality education for all. (Contains 3 endnotes.)